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	<title>Comments on: One New Year&#8217;s Resolution Down the Tubes</title>
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	<description>One Screenwriter's Struggle to Juggle Reel Life and Real Life</description>
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		<title>By: WriterDad</title>
		<link>http://writerdad303.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/one-new-years-resolution-down-the-tubes/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>WriterDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... to be honest, I&#039;ve heard that it&#039;s impossible to sell a treatment unless you&#039;re, ya know, Robert Towne or somebody, so I&#039;ve never really tried to send one out.  Every treatment I&#039;ve ever written has been either for my eyes only or for the benefit of my agent/manager or (in the case of the Wedding Comedy), the producer who&#039;s already optioned my script and wants to know what I&#039;m going to do in the next draft.  I&#039;m afraid I can&#039;t offer any advice for you in this case, though my gut instinct would be to do as much research on my own as I can and just spec it out like I would an original story.  Or work it up into a presentation and try to get pitch meetings.

Your brainstorming idea is interesting.  I guess I do something similar when I&#039;m in idea-generating mode, though I tend to be a little more rigid, structure freak that I am.

And yeah, I&#039;ve lurked on your blog (gotta update my links).  Sorry for getting you hooked. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; to be honest, I&#8217;ve heard that it&#8217;s impossible to sell a treatment unless you&#8217;re, ya know, Robert Towne or somebody, so I&#8217;ve never really tried to send one out.  Every treatment I&#8217;ve ever written has been either for my eyes only or for the benefit of my agent/manager or (in the case of the Wedding Comedy), the producer who&#8217;s already optioned my script and wants to know what I&#8217;m going to do in the next draft.  I&#8217;m afraid I can&#8217;t offer any advice for you in this case, though my gut instinct would be to do as much research on my own as I can and just spec it out like I would an original story.  Or work it up into a presentation and try to get pitch meetings.</p>
<p>Your brainstorming idea is interesting.  I guess I do something similar when I&#8217;m in idea-generating mode, though I tend to be a little more rigid, structure freak that I am.</p>
<p>And yeah, I&#8217;ve lurked on your blog (gotta update my links).  Sorry for getting you hooked. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: K.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dad,

The problem with this Treatment is that it&#039;s not one I can flesh out a whole narrative with, I&#039;m essentially selling a setting and a mood.  I know you&#039;re going to say &quot;You don&#039;t have a story do you?&quot;  There is a story but the point of this treatment is for me to get some dev money I can go and research this topic that is based on some true events.  So it&#039;s a &quot;selling treatment&quot;, have you had any tips with this sort of situation?

Regarding your outlining/writing detailed treatments.  I never actually write a treatment before I dive into writing a screenplay, what I do start with is actually about 6 notebooks per script, which are essentially midway between a writing diary and a very long outline.  This seems to work for me.  I find starting off the day writing what I&#039;m feeling or thinking about into a notebook helps me flesh out and think a lot more than using the treatment method.  You up for trying out a different method?

By the way check out my blog, I&#039;m blogging and I blame you for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dad,</p>
<p>The problem with this Treatment is that it&#8217;s not one I can flesh out a whole narrative with, I&#8217;m essentially selling a setting and a mood.  I know you&#8217;re going to say &#8220;You don&#8217;t have a story do you?&#8221;  There is a story but the point of this treatment is for me to get some dev money I can go and research this topic that is based on some true events.  So it&#8217;s a &#8220;selling treatment&#8221;, have you had any tips with this sort of situation?</p>
<p>Regarding your outlining/writing detailed treatments.  I never actually write a treatment before I dive into writing a screenplay, what I do start with is actually about 6 notebooks per script, which are essentially midway between a writing diary and a very long outline.  This seems to work for me.  I find starting off the day writing what I&#8217;m feeling or thinking about into a notebook helps me flesh out and think a lot more than using the treatment method.  You up for trying out a different method?</p>
<p>By the way check out my blog, I&#8217;m blogging and I blame you for it.</p>
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		<title>By: WriterDad</title>
		<link>http://writerdad303.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/one-new-years-resolution-down-the-tubes/#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>WriterDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kent -- thanks!  Yeah, I have high hopes for this one, perhaps unreasonably so...

K -- you know what?  I actually love treatments.  After I figure out the opening, the ending, the major story beats and the act breaks, it&#039;s always fun to start sketching things out.  The thing always seems so full of potential.  Unfortunately, after I write, say, &quot;Bob steals the alien death ray and accidentally nukes Manhattan&quot; in the treatment, then I have to figure out HOW Bob does it.  And as I start making choices and locking things down, then I start wondering if this is the right path for my story.  The potential goes away as the story becomes what it becomes.  And usually after a certain point, what it becomes is just a giant disappointment for me.  The lesson in all of this is that I probably need to write more detailed treatments and outlines from the get-go, but what can I say, I&#039;m a slow learner...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent &#8212; thanks!  Yeah, I have high hopes for this one, perhaps unreasonably so&#8230;</p>
<p>K &#8212; you know what?  I actually love treatments.  After I figure out the opening, the ending, the major story beats and the act breaks, it&#8217;s always fun to start sketching things out.  The thing always seems so full of potential.  Unfortunately, after I write, say, &#8220;Bob steals the alien death ray and accidentally nukes Manhattan&#8221; in the treatment, then I have to figure out HOW Bob does it.  And as I start making choices and locking things down, then I start wondering if this is the right path for my story.  The potential goes away as the story becomes what it becomes.  And usually after a certain point, what it becomes is just a giant disappointment for me.  The lesson in all of this is that I probably need to write more detailed treatments and outlines from the get-go, but what can I say, I&#8217;m a slow learner&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: K.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might be liberating to write something like your BigFoot Comedy.

Goodluck with it, I&#039;m struggling with treatments.  Don&#039;t you hate treatments!?

The Obscure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might be liberating to write something like your BigFoot Comedy.</p>
<p>Goodluck with it, I&#8217;m struggling with treatments.  Don&#8217;t you hate treatments!?</p>
<p>The Obscure</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finish it! :). I think that could be the one...at least as a writing sample. Your passion will show and it will seem fresher. 

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finish it! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I think that could be the one&#8230;at least as a writing sample. Your passion will show and it will seem fresher. </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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